marco de michiel wrote:
> Ned,
>
> you wrote....
>
> It  is my understanding that the new web site is for as you call
> them "the clearly disturbed"
>
> Ned
>
>
> I don't wish to prolong the debate on Escr but I find your words
> tasteless
> and offensive; and quite childish.
> Everyone in this group voices their thoughts, opinions annd arguments
> intelligently; and occasionally some communications become emotive and
> perhaps subjective because the writer has become so absorbed by the
> subject
> they sound off out of frustration. what better place than here! The only
> time a member should be asked to cease their dialogue is if they
> blatantly
> make false statements; especially if it involves a person,
> irrespective of
> their position. First a warning, followed by permanent removal, if they
> disregard the warning. The last thing we should be doing is reducing
> numbers
> but quite the opposite. We should be growing it through effective PR, to
> bring in all those with PD that  are currently facing it alone [and their
> family]. If they don't have the means to fund a PC & modem we, those who
> can, should look into establishing a recycling equipment list, when we
> replace a system. If we each paid in $1.00/week I think we could soon
> have a
> significant amount. This money could be used for special projects, e.g.
> database, and PR campaigns; media coverage. This group consists of very
> intelligent people, who call a spade a spade and who are not prepared
> to sit
> and do nothing and just wait for the inevitable.
>
> As for the lady who said something like , '' ... if it's only a blob in a
> dish, it isn't human, so what's the problem...". The problem is it's
> alive
> [egg+sperm] albeit invitro, it's the first part of the human form;
> with it's
> DNA code that will, if allowed to live become a human being. This has
> made
> me think abount IVF Clinics and Sperm banks as having crossed the line
> from
> health care to significant businesses; just like  Plastic Surgeory. My
> IVF
> question. For couples having difficulty conceiving, the solution(I
> think is
> usually IVF) But if they can takes eggs and sperm and reimplant
> several eggs
> in
> womb and a live birth takes; after a costly and lengthy exercise; and at
> times difficult and
> emotional for the woman - it's not exactly the same as making love - why
> can't they (?) conceive, etc. naturally. I
> think the IVF $dollars have stopped them looking. Births too have
> become a
> business because more are being delivered
> by C-section-certainly in the UK.
>
> I am a catholic and I have my beliefs but these aside I am concerned
> about
> ESCR - and any form of bio tech - because of what
> it might lead to; and who would control the business because that's what
> it'll become, a business.
>
> I mean no offence.
>
> Marco
>
> Marco:
 Leighton up it's satire, even if you don't get it.   I assure you that
some of the 500 +
members of this list who never post are laughing.  I hope you are not
against the
palliative power of  laughter, but then you could always  make a
rule.............


Clearly Disturbed  I have PD

Ned

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