Amanda, it sure is a  "bite-you-in-the-backside" when you're not looking
universe. A biscuit-centric universe would appear to be accurate for dogs,
too.
Why are you Brits funnier than anyone else?
Ray
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From: "Amanda Phillips" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: "Biocentric" theory of universe


> In a message dated 17/03/2007 06:05:29 GMT Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask]
> writes:
>
> Scott:
> Lanza was the researcher who did the gene biopsy type study  that showed
> that
> one cell could be taken without destroying the  blastocyst.  His work
> became
> the subject of much argument.
>
> I  think what he meant was that space and time is how we  experience
> consciousness.  Certainly before we were born or existed we  experienced
> neither.  I think his idea that all living creatures are  bound by
> themselves
> is a good one.  For example, it is difficult  especially with respect to
> religion to escape anthropomorphism whether you  are a believer or not.
> I'm
> guessing my dog Spike does not see the  issue in the same way I do.  We
> are
> both restricted by who and what we  are.
>
> I only posted this because Lanza is a stem cell researcher and I  thought
> his
> ideas were interesting.
> Ray
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "Scott E. Antes" <[log in to unmask]>
> To:  <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:44  AM
> Subject: Re: "Biocentric" theory of universe
>
>
>>I wanted to  say something earlier, but too many students this semester!
>>I'm
>>  not sure what this has to do with PD, but: I do not know Dr. Lanza,  nor
>> have I
>> read his work, so I am going strictly by the  interview posted on this
>> list.
>> This is not--by any stretch of  the imagination--a biocentric universe.
>> Biology is a relative  latecomer to the big picture.  Plus, of all matter
>> that
>>  exists in our universe, biology makes up only a tiny fraction.  Most  of
>> the
>> universe is void of life, and--as best we know--always  has been.
>>
>> If Dr. Lanza is saying that we humans basically  construct and
>> reconstruct
>> our
>> universe (actually, our *notion*  of the universe) as we gain more
>> knowledge
>> and understanding  of it--and as previous notions get pushed aside, then
>> all of
>>  us in the scientific community would agree.  It's all a matter of
>>  operating
>> under the current paradigm (either social or  scientific).
>>
>> Time and space.  Time and space and life are  about the only three
>> absolute
>> truths in existence.  The devout  Buddhist might say that even these are
>> simply
>> illusion.   Thus, humans define these terms in all sorts of cultural
>> ways.
>> Whether  illusion or truth, we practical people have to recognize that we
>>  work
>> within their infinite borders.  Infinite for time and space,  that is.
>> Not
>> for
>> life.  Life begins and ends,  whereas time and space do not.  A
>> biocentric
>> universe?   Hardly.
>>
>> Scott Antes
>>
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>>>I think Dr.  Lanza  is one smart guy.  I never did believe "time" was
>>>real.
>>>Ray
>>
>> Scott E. Antes
>> Department of  Anthropology
>> Northern Arizona University
>> Flagstaff, AZ  86011-5200
>>
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> I tthink it's a bite-you-in-the-backside-when-you're-not-expecting-it
> universe,
>
> - or for dogs, a biscuit-centric universe....
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