In a message dated 20/03/2007 06:04:32 GMT Standard Time,  [log in to unmask]
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Marsha,  guess what, I found my original post of 3-10-07, thanks to
Amanda.....I  don't save stuff I have so much of it.  I noticed this time it
was  someone writing about Lanza's theory, not himself.  When I searched it  I
found, like you, people talking about it or excerpts.  Also, when I  clicked
on links to his American Scholar article, my attempts to access it  failed.

Your pains sound like PD to me and like what I have.  I'm  starting to get
spasms in my legs that are quite painful.  Hope your  neuro can provide some
insights.  I'm sorry to hear you are having  difficulty.  When I last talked
to you you didn't mention  it.
Ray
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Subject: Re: "Biocentric" theory of universe


>I  think Dr.  Lanza is one smart guy.  I never did believe "time" was  real.
> Ray
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> From: "Amanda  Phillips" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007  4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: "Biocentric" theory of  universe
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>
>> In a message dated 10/03/2007 07:03:48  GMT Standard Time,
>> [log in to unmask]
>>  writes:
>>
>> Will  Biology Solve the  Universe?
>> By Aaron Rowe| Also by this reporter
>>  10:00  AM Mar, 08, 2007
>> For years, scientists have tried to  develop a universal  theory of
>> everything. Steven Hawking  predicts that such a theory will be
>> discovered in
>> the  next 20 years. A new theory asserts that biology, not  physics,  will
>> be
>> the key to unlocking the deepest mysteries of  the  universe, such as
>> quantum
>>  mechanics.
>> "The answer to the universe is  biology -- it's as  simple as that," says
>> Dr.
>> Robert Lanza, vice  president  of research and scientific development at
>> Advanced  Cell Technology. He  details his theory in The American
>>  Scholar's
>> spring issue, published on  Thursday. Lanza says  scientists will
>> establish a
>> unified theory only  if  they radically rethink their understanding of
>>  space
>> and time using a  "biocentric" approach. His article is  essentially a
>> biological and  philosophical response to  Hawking's A Brief History of
>> Time,
>> in which he   questions how we interpret the big bang, the existence of
>>  space
>> and time,  as well as many other theories -- assertions  that might ruffle
>> the
>> feathers  of some physical  scientists.
>> But Lanza is used to controversy. The 2005  Wired  Rave Award winner has
>> seen
>> plenty in response to his  stem cell and  cloning work at Advanced Cell.
>> And
>>  he's ready for the scientific row his  latest work is likely to  engender.
>> "The urgent and primary questions of the  universe  have been undertaken
>> by
>> those physicists who are  trying to explain  the origins of everything
>> with
>>  grand unified theories," says Lanza in his  article. "But as exciting  and
>> glamorous as these theories are, they are an  evasion, if  not a reversal,
>> of
>> the central mystery of knowledge:  that the  laws of the world were
>> somehow
>> created  to produce the observer."
>> At  several points in his article,  he argues that cosmologists are doing
>> work
>> that has  been hijacked by creationists.
>> "In cosmology, scientists   have discovered that the universe has a long
>> list
>> of  traits that make it  appear as if everything it contains -- from  atoms
>> to
>> stars -- was  tailor-made for us," he  writes. "Indeed, the lack of a
>> scientific  explanation has  allowed these facts to be hijacked as a
>> defense
>>  of  intelligent design."
>> Lanza argues that time is not the  linear phenomena  that we are
>> comfortable
>> with.  Rather, our perception of time is a tool we  use to understand  the
>> world around us. While it works well for the average   person, it hampers
>> our
>> understanding of advanced  physics. In this Wired  News Q&A, Lanza
>>  explains
>> more about the theory he calls his life's work   .
>> Wired News: You call your theory of the universe a biocentric  theory.
>> What,
>> exactly, does that mean?
>>  Lanza: This new theory presents a shift  in world view with  the
>> perspective
>> that life creates the universe  instead  of the other way around.
>> WN: I imagine that a lot of  physicists will be  rather upset by your
>> article.
>>  How do you expect them to react?
>> Lanza:  People are not going  to be very happy with what this all means.
>> This
>>  theory  is going to invalidate their (some scientists) entire  life's
>> work. I
>> will  definitely get  crucified.
>> We've got the scientific structure and framework   incorrect. We need a
>> theory
>> that is internally  consistent. We can't do this  without creating a
>> biological  understanding of space and time. This will  require
>>  restructuring
>> science so that biology is above  physics.
>> WN: Does  that mean you think that big physics and  astronomy projects
>> should
>> not be   funded?
>> Lanza: Of course they should be funded. I don't think  that  everything
>> should
>> be changed. What I am  saying is that there is a missing  piece to the
>>  puzzle
>> of how the universe works. The answer is biology. It  is  as simple as
>> that.
>> The biological picture of  space and time must be  integrated into our
>> understanding of  physics.
>> WN: Why do you think that  there is such a deep  misunderstanding of what
>> time
>> and space really   are?
>> Lanza: Our minds are structured to think that way. Even  Einstein  avoided
>> the
>> question of what space and  time are. He simply defined them as  what we
>> measure with  clocks and measuring-rods. However, the emphasis  should be
>>  on
>> the "we," not the measuring.
>> WN: Do you expect that  some  people will read your article and think you
>>  mean
>> that they can sit on a  mountaintop and meditate to  change the world
>> around
>> them with mind   powers?
>> Lanza: We can't decide that we want to jump off the roof  and not  get
>> hurt.
>> However much we want, we can't  violate the rules of  spatiotemporal
>> logic.
>> WN:  In your article, you make the assertion that time  and space do  not
>> exist. What do you mean by that?
>> Lanza: There  is  something very unusual about them. We can't put them in
>>  a
>> marmalade jar and  take them back to the lab for analysis.  Space and time
>> are
>> forms of animal  sense  perception. Space and time are not objects or
>> things -- they  are  forms of animal sense perception.
>> Thousands of articles  and books have  danced around the desire to toss
>>  off
>> the current mechanical world view that  has dominated  Western culture for
>> hundreds of years. While some imply that   time and space may not in fact
>> exist, this article diagrams, for  the first  time, such a universe -- a
>> universe in which time  and space do not exist as  physical realities
>> independent of  humans and animals.
>> WN: You seem to  disagree with how the  world was created.
>> Lanza: There are serious problems  with  the current world view. We pride
>> ourselves in our current beliefs  and  then we (scientists) say, and by
>> the
>> way, we  have no idea why the big bang  happened.
>> WN: Can you explain  why we should doubt the things that are  accepted as
>>  the
>> truth in science classes everywhere?
>> Lanza: For  the  first time outside of complex mathematics, this theory
>>  explains the  provocative new experiment that was just published  in
>> Science
>> last month.  This landmark experiment  showed that a choice you make now
>> can
>> actually   influence an event that has already occurred in the past.
>>  Scientists  continue to dismiss the observer as an inconvenience to  their
>> theories.  Real experiments show that the properties of  matter itself
>> are
>> observer-determined. A particle can  go through one hole if you look at
>> it,
>> but if you  don't look at it, it can actually go through more than one
>>  hole
>> at the same time. Science has no explanation for how the  world can be
>> like
>> that.
>>
>> *This  is why light can be both and/or a wave and a  particle,   depending
>> upon
>> perception.   Ray,
>>
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>> If  there's a theory of everything,does  that mean it's a theory  of
>> itself ?
>> - and there's a theory of a theory of a  theory of a .... oh, never  mind
>> !
>>
>>  amanda
>>
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I've found a"Tens" machine (electronic pain relief) rather helpfull for
muscle pains / cramps, tho the effect wears off after a few hours.    It generates
eletrical currents that seem to un-spasm the muscle.  Mine can  be worn under
clothes & has various settings and strengths.
It also helps  when I've stiffened after being motionless.







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