do we need to  ban aborted fetuses in food ?   Yek !
 

> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 11:54:33 -0700
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: we need truth!
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> Mary Ann,
> 
> How true!!!! No one will convince me that a microscopic cell is the same 
> thing as a person, nor will you change your mind. However, I do think 
> someone should be responsible for the truth about this research. Calling 
> Meg a "baby killer", supporting laws that ban aborted fetuses in food and 
> 14th Amendment "personhood" rights for zygotes, does not prevent abortions 
> nor does it cure Parkinson's.
> 
> Claiming false Adult Stem Cell cures for PD, such as Prentice did a few 
> years ago does not advance science nor does it change people's minds re 
> ethical issues.
> 
> I spent several years researching and exposing Prentice which is why I 
> privately sent David 10 out of close to 100 emails which document this 
> effort. Sources of information (as in history) are important so we 
> get valid info.
> 
> The truth of whether any research works or what it involves, I think would 
> be of interest to PWP. I don't care of it turns out iPSCs works for PD, or 
> something else. And everyone has the right to believe what they want, 
> PLEASE JUST DON'T LIE.
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mary Ann Ryan
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 8:02 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Lets talk about ESC Mania!
> 
> This topic has been discussed on this list over and over again. I suggest
> that we move on and agree to disagree. David, there will be no 'give' in
> the response from those who disagree with you. No one will attempt to
> answer your questions if it gives credibility to your argument.
> 
> Each camp will remain firmly entrenched. I doubt that anyone's mind will be
> changed. My husband, a Ph.D. Physical Chemist died because of PD but would
> never have considered a stem cell implant for ethical reasons. That's how
> he felt. Others on this list would choose any treatment that could
> potentially work. I've come to the conclusion that there will be no middle
> ground when it comes to ESCR.
> ----------
> Mary Ann (CG Jamie 68/28 with PD, died 11/20/07)
> 
> > When I first responded to the comments concerning the OK politician, it 
> > was because I too, thought his proposal was ridiculous. I didn't realize 
> > that Meg had been the brunt of some radical's actions. But when Ray said 
> > let's discuss the issue, I subsequently asked those questions. I don't 
> > know Dr. Prentice, and used his testimony in the context of supporting 
> > gov't. and other entity's documentation. His credibility shouldn't be the 
> > issue if those are legitimate questions based on scientific conclusion.
> >
> > The reason I asked questions is because I am not qualified to answer any 
> > of them. So far, there has been no one who has answered questions 1--6, 
> > with supporting documentation. Are those questions true or false?
> >
> > I respect your opinion on when a human being begins life. But at the 
> > moment of conception, it is my understanding that an incredible event 
> > occurs; a one of a kind stamp that will carry that individual's identity 
> > from that moment and will survive his or her own death: DNA. Am I wrong, 
> > does DNA come along sometime later in the development of the "fetus"? If 
> > there is science that refutes my understanding of when DNA is established, 
> > I'd appreciate seeing it.
> >
> > The lines seem to be clearly drawn. My wife and I have several friends 
> > who have had abortions, and I understand why they are passionate about 
> > this issue. We can't judge them nor do we think they are murderers. We 
> > love them and have enjoyed their friendship for years. They know where we 
> > stand; I believe that life does begin at conception, (no debate 
> > necessary). Like I said before, it seems that those in favor of abortion 
> > are also for ESCR, and visa versa.
> >
> > I was diagnosed with PD 7 years ago, and have been taking a supplement for 
> > about 2 years now. It has been adequately vented on this site, but it 
> > deals with Adult Stem cell Nutrients. I've seen a degrading PD 
> > progression turn around and in some cases completely reverse the symptom. 
> > My worsening resting tremor in my left thumb is now gone; my shuffling, 
> > forward leaning gate is now a heel-toe upright walk. My energy and 
> > strength levels have improved.
> >
> > You may not have been on this site when I thought I was spreading good 
> > news about a product that had helped me in my fight against PD. The 
> > response was less than positive, and I realized that there was a lot of 
> > animosity based, I guess, on years of experience some of the members had 
> > with so called "cures". Some said I was just trying to get rich (I'm not 
> > looking for a job) off the sick, that the placebo effect was in play; that 
> > this is what keeps "faith healers" in business, etc. And finally; "it 
> > won't last". Well, it's been good for me for a little under 2 years now, 
> > so if it doesn't last, I at least have enjoyed the improvement so far.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave
> parkinsn
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask]
> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask]
> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn
 		 	   		  
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask]
In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn