when re-organising healthcare, someone needs  to keep an eye on the paper-pushers -
the little memo-maniacs have half-strangled the British health service.
 

> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:51:57 -0700
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: as if
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> Think of health care like education; both do not generate immediate 
> financial gain, but the benefits are undeniable and teachers do not work for 
> free, but education is "free" if you don't pay property or local taxes.
> 
> I am discouraged too re medical progress and am very sorry to hear your 
> husband is so bad off...and knowing that will be me too.
> 
> Hoping support from the PIEN List helps a little bit.
> 
> Ray
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: patti zapf
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:17 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: as if
> 
> Curious... Are the doctors and hospitals to work for free as well? The
> 8-12+ years of additional school gets paid for by who?
> The government? In many countries, I understand this is the case. Health
> care keeps progressing, allowing many to live longer and longer. Is this a
> good thing? I think if I were really sick, I would feel and ask
> differently. My husband is really sick and requires round the clock care...
> 
> I knew this was coming, based on what we have been told, but in my heart I
> hoped and prayed it wouldn't. My compassion and outlook are very dreary
> right now towards medical progress.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ryan
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:44 AM
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> Subject: Re: as if
> 
> If health care isn't affordable for everyone - we all lose. If vaccinations
> aren't available to poor children, rich children are at risk of infection.
> We are seeing alarming increases in Whooping Cough and Measles. Those
> infections can kill.
> 
> There are diseases that are not covered by vaccinations - such as TB. Bet
> you don't want to sit next to someone on a bus, in a taxi or in a work place
> with TB. How many people work through a chronic cough because they can't
> afford healthcare??
> 
> ER visits and hospital stays are expensive. Hospitals may not turn away the
> indigent - so the taxpayer has to pay for their care. I work as the
> resident RN (volunteer) for a homeless shelter. One of our guests last year
> lost both of his feet to frostbite. Because the hospital could not find a
> Medicaid nursing home bed for him, the hospital kept discharging him to our
> shelter. Five times he developed infections in his wounds which required ER
> visits, 5 hospitalizations in isolated rooms because his infections were
> hospital acquired, powerful antibiotics and advanced wound care. All of that
> 
> in a 6 month period. We figure that he cost taxpayers $1 million dollars
> until he was finally placed in a Medicaid facility (for which the taxpayer
> is still paying - but the bill is cheaper).
> 
> We all pay when health care isn't provided.
> --------
> 
> 
> > Why should health care be FREE? If you are poor, why should the tax
> > payers pay for your care?
> > Why is everyone entitled to a better life? Please enlighten me.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Rack
> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:46 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: as if
> >
> >>Denying treatment, denying choice is already a feature of medical
> >>care, and has been for some time. For-profit insurers are certainly
> >>not averse to piling on the procedures, diagnostics, and drugs for
> >>which they will not pay, meaning that, as always, it's the very rich
> >>who can get the best that medicine has to offer, anywhere in the
> >>world, while the rest of us figure out what we will forego in order
> >>to, let's say, continue to take brand name Sinemet when our coverage
> >>is limited to generics. (And for many, all assertions to the contrary,
> >>there IS a difference between the two.) Or perhaps we wake up from a
> >>colonoscopy to find that a preventive exam turned into something else,
> >>something not covered, when a suspicious polyp was removed while we
> >>were unconscious.
> >>
> >>Thanks to the new policies under Obama, my 23-year-old nephew is able
> >>to remain on his parents' policy, not stranded without insurance, as
> >>my kids were after college; and my friend with cancer can't be denied
> >>coverage because of her condition. Those are HUGE changes that
> >>positively affect the lives of countless Americans.
> >>
> >>If the Supreme Court undoes the new health care laws, what's the point?
> >>Congress might as well go home. It's what they seem to do best, anyway.
> >>
> >>Kathleen
> >>
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> > Kathleen,
> > You have stated this issue clearly and succinctly.
> > Thank you for spreading the word.
> > --
> > Steve in VT
> >
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