Wendy, do you have Kathy Tollifsons email address?  I would like to hear
more of the healing that she was referring to.  Thank you,

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From: Tebay, Wendy M <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Substantia NIgra Comes Back to Life!


>Mike,
>
>Yep, to be perfectly honest, until just recently, I had not heard of any pd
>healings, miraculous or otherwise.  The one that Katie Tollifson recently
>reposted is the only one I've ever heard of which seems to possibly qualify
>as a complete healing.  I had maybe about five responses to my recent
>request for healing stories, that I could accumulate in a database of
sorts,
>so I probably won't pursue that all the way at the moment (maybe in 6
months
>to a year, I'll try again).  I figured if we could actually find some other
>similar stories, then it would be worth following up on them, getting more
>information, and trying  to do some real analysis on whether they were
truly
>healings, how they occurred,  it they still in effect, etc.  Of  the five
or
>so responses I got, one included Kathie's story and one was chalked up to
an
>original misdiagnosis (whether that's true or not, I guess no one knows
till
>the person's deceased - and I suppose, were they truly healed/cured, could
>we even tell anyway post-mortem, if the healing also wiped out any and all
>previous signs of pd?).  I think the others qualified more as individuals
>who've had pd for a long time and have experiencend relatively slow
>progression (not that that's not worth following up on, but it's not a
>cure).
>
>Considering the generally negatiive reaction Kathie received when she
posted
>that healing story, people with other similar stories might not want to
post
>theirs.  That's part of the reason I decided to suggest my survey, and have
>people resond to me directly first.   I wouldn't be surprised that some
>other stories are in existence somewhere, but these people were either
>written off as not having pd to start and/or they, having already being
>healed of pd (or whatever they had), would have no reason to seek out this
>forum because of that.  i forget what the percentage of those who are
>misdiagnosed with pd is, but there could be a number of us who think we
have
>it, and who don't.  Personally,  I'd be just as happy whatever I was cured
>of at this point, pd or something else, cuz in my mind they all suck
>equally.
>
>It's kinda funny, and altho' I know some of you don't want to hear Biblical
>references (I'd use another if I knew of one specifically), however,
there's
>one story of Jesus' healing a blind man which I kinda find relevant to all
>this.  After the man was healed of his blindness, those who were trying to
>trap Jesus (and who also didn't believe that the healing had really
>happened), questioned the man up and down, questioned all of the witnesses,
>etc.  They really grilled him, at first questioning the healing, and then
>whether he had really ever been blind in the first place.  Then, they
>supposedly even went back to his hometown and also grilled his parents as
to
>whether he had truly been blind to start.  Upon getting a positive
response,
>they then questioned if this guy was who he said he was, and so on and so
>on.  They both wanted to discredit and entrap Jesus, but probably just as
>much, they didn't even believe it had happened.  They said something about
>there having been no one, in the history of mankind, ever having been
healed
>of blindness, who had been blind since birth.
>
>I brought up this story cuz just like blindness, up until this point, no
one
>(supposedly) has ever been healed of PD.   Even if someone were today
healed
>of pd, then I would bet, rather than exploring the possibility, most people
>would begin (based on the responses to Kathie's posting), like these guys
>did, by questioning whether the person really had it in the first place
>(altho' that is a valid question with pd as it's not easily diagnosed).  I
>bet they would also try to discredit the form of their healing (whether by
>herbal medicine, spiritual healing, or whatever), and so on.  It cracks me
>up that in this Biblical story, they even questioned the man's identity,
>saying that it must be someone else who looks like the other guy, who must
>still be blind wandering around somewhere.  Ha!  Where can I find a sucker
>to pose for me as if they had been cured of my pd?  Not!  No one in the
>history of mankind (except for Kathie's story so far as we know) has ever
>been healed of pd, but it's about time someone break thru the barrier and
>show others how.  I truly think if one of us could accomplish this, others
>would follow, once they believed it to be possible.
>
>I just went to see the new Robin Williams movie, What Dreams May Come
>(something like that).  WIthout giving the story away, I'll just say that
it
>seems like that even in heaven, there are still limits placed on
individuals
>regarding what can and can't be done, and likewise, there are still those
>who dare to break all the rules by doing the impossible.
>
>I don't know who here is familiar with Carlos Casteneda, but while
exploring
>early American native cultures while an anthropology student, he began a
>personal exploration of shamanism, under some guy named Don Juan.   He
>describes, in his books, "traveling" in his mind, to other worlds, that
>according to him, are as real (or more so) than ours.  These worlds had
>their own dangers and pitfalls, but were also places full of beauty and
>power.  According to him, as well as some other yogis I've read of, we need
>to be more aware, and more careful, about our thoughts, cuz not only do our
>they affect our perception of reality, but can literally change it for
>better or worse.  Things like shape changing are not just ideas, but really
>done.  One yogi I was reading cautioned about some of the visualization
>techniques, like picturing oneself connected to the center of the earth,
>because these mental pictures one creates are literal, and one can release
>forces for which one is not prepared, as well as those originally desired.
>One can obviously take literalism to the extreme and the absurd, but I
still
>believe we all have much more real power over our current situation,
>including pd, than we might think.
>
>Wendy Tebay