Janet....it really doesn't matter but .since you said,  "and to fish for
comments and/or...."   you might want to take into account that possibly
some of these  ins/outs have changed their email address from one ISP to
another which would be a remove from the list and an add to the list...which
is what I will be doing in next couple of weeks as soon as I can get
bookmarks and addresses transferred....wha'cha' think?  Joan
-----Original Message-----
From: janet paterson <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:57 AM
Subject: FYI: latest "Welcome to the PIEnet!" message for joiners


>hi all
>
>just to keep you all up to date
>and to fish for comments and/or corrections
>
>[btw, 31 list joiners and 25 list leavers in the past week or so]
>
>janet
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>
>welcome to the newest PARKINSN list-member and cyber-sibling!
>
>hello!
>
>i am janet paterson [one tee]
>sometimes known as the list-elf
>sometimes known as the nerdette list-mom
>
>please accept my greetings and warm welcome to what i consider
>one of the finest sources of information and support
>for people with parkinson's [PWP]
>and their caregivers [CG]
>
>barb patterson [two tees - no relation!]
>sometimes known as the founding list-mom
>established this mailing list in november 1993
>
>i discovered it in october 1995 and count that discovery
>as a turning point for me in dealing with my own pd
>
>beware all netniks:
>please note that none of us are medicos:
>discussions here should not be construed as 'professional advice'
>
>beware incoming e-mail:
>please note that we currently have 1800 members worldwide:
>list message volume can vary anywhere from 20 to 60 messages per day
>
>beware 'list police':
>this is our favourite PIEnet list description:
>
>>>> Posting number 53115, dated 4 Dec 1998 14:43:07
>>Date:         Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:43:07 -0500
>>From:         janet paterson <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject:      Re: Suggestion for Newbie Subscriptions
>>
>>...
>>my two cents' worth:
>>...
>>i cannot see the volume as a 'problem'
>>whether there are 30 messages in one day or in one hour
>>whether they are all about pd or not
>>whether they are all about snake oil or not
>>
>>they reflect the living breathing organism
>>which is this cyber-family
>>
>>we are not a corporation bound by company rulebooks and standards
>>we are not a school bound by a curriculum and exams
>>
>>we are part of a new frontier of democracy
>>where each one of us has
>>the same opportunity to be heard as everyone else
>>and
>>the same right to speak as everyone else
>>
>>personally
>>i find it awe-inspiring just as it is
>
>
>below
>please find a welcome message from barb patterson
>along with our current PIEnet subscription instructions
>
>please contact me if you have any questions or need more info
>or visit the PIEnet section of my website [see below]
>which i have dedicated to this
>
>
>janet
>
>
>janet paterson
>52 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
>snail-mail: PO Box 171  Almonte  Ontario  K0A 1A0  Canada
>website: a new voice <http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Village/6263/>
>e-mail: <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>===========================================================================
=
>
>Welcome!
>
>You have joined the PARKINSN mailing list also known as the Parkinson
>Information Exchange Network [PIEnet].
>
>Please send a message to the list members (if you want to) introducing
>yourself and any Parkinson's-related topics you would like.
>
>Let me introduce myself. I am a secretary for six faculty members in
>the School of Nursing, McMaster University.  In September, 1992, I was
>diagnosed as having Parkinson's ... hence my interest in this list.
>
>I hope you enjoy your involvement with the PIEnet.
>
>Barb
>
>===========================================================================
=
>Barbara Patterson
[log in to unmask]
>HSC 2J22                                        905-525-9140, ext. 22403
>                        School of Nursing
>===========================================================================
=
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Subscription Instructions
>
>the following is the text version
>of information available on the World Wide Web at:
><http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Village/6263/pienet/subs/>
>updated 1999/07/19
>
>
>subscription instructions
>the short version
>
>=================================================================
>List Address: for posting a message to the PARKINSN listmembers:
>     [log in to unmask]
>=================================================================
>Command Address: for sending a command to the LISTSERV computer:
>     [log in to unmask]
>=================================================================
>To subscribe, send this command:
>     SUBSCRIBE PARKINSN YOURFIRSTNAME YOURLASTNAME
>To obtain a list of the commands that the listserv recognizes:
>     HELP
>To obtain your current subscription options:
>     QUERY PARKINSN
>To receive copies of your own messages:
>     SET PARKINSN REPRO
>To change from individual messages to the digest format:
>     SET PARKINSN DIGEST
>To change back to individual messages from the digest format:
>     SET PARKINSN NODIGEST
>To stop incoming mail temporarily:
>     SET PARKINSN NOMAIL
>To resume incoming mail:
>     SET PARKINSN MAIL
>To stop incoming mail permanently and terminate your subscription:
>     SIGNOFF PARKINSN
>=================================================================
>
>
>how to join
>how to subscribe to the PIEnet listserv mailing list
>
>To subscribe, send this 'command' message:
>    SUBSCRIBE PARKINSN YOURFIRSTNAME YOURLASTNAME
>
>E-mail all 'command' messages to the listserv computer at:
>     [log in to unmask]
>
>After you confirm your subscription by return e-mail, you will
>start receiving messages as they are posted to the PIEnet.
>
>here's a sample 'i want to subscribe' message:
>
>================================================================
>Date:    1999/12/31 23:59:59 EST
>From:    Ms. Wanda Joyne, PhD
>To:      [log in to unmask]
>Cc:      me
>Subject: My First E-Mail Message to a Machine
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>SUBSCRIBE PARKINSN WANDA JOYNE
>
>================================================================
>
>here are some tips
>
>* The "To" Header: The listserv has two addresses:
>  the List Address: use [log in to unmask]
>  for messages to the PARKINSN list-members; and
>  the Command Address: use [log in to unmask]
>  for commands to the LISTSERV computer;
>  incredible as it might sound, it's easy to mix them up...
>
>* The "Subject" Header: This header (and anything typed in it) is
>  ignored by the listerv computer.
>
>* The "Body" of the Message: This is where the listserv computer
>  looks for 'commands' in very specific nerd-lingo.
>
>
>how to talk to the cyber-server
>how to change your subscription options
>
>
>There are various options which can change the way your subscription
>is managed. There are specific words aka 'commands' that the listserv
>computer will recognize and respond to.
>
>All 'commands' to the computer should be in the 'body' section of your
>e-mail message. The 'subject header' is ignored by the listserv.
>
>Since the listserv computer at the University of Toronto manages several
>mailing lists, all commands affecting your subscription must include the
>name of our mailing list too.
>
>The listserv name for the PIEnet is PARKINSN [not PARKINSON)
>[the O was stolen by malicious hackers].
>
>The Command Address for sending a 'command' to the LISTSERV computer is:
>     [log in to unmask]
>
>To request a descriptive summary list of the 'commands' that the listserv
>recognizes, send the following 'command' message:
>     HELP
>
>To find out what your subscription options currently are:
>    QUERY PARKINSN
>
>To change your subscription options to receive the digest format
>[i.e. two or three 'lumps' of collected mail per day rather than
>individual messages - possibly more convenient but less timely]:
>    SET PARKINSN DIGEST
>
>To change your subscription setting back to individual messages:
>    SET PARKINSN NODIGEST
>
>To stop the incoming mail temporarily:
>(for vacations, etc, - this means that you 'miss out' on the pd listmail
>during your vacation but if you want to 'catch up' on what you've missed
>you can always request old messages from the listserv]
>     SET PARKINSN NOMAIL
>
>To resume incoming mail:
>     SET PARKINSN MAIL
>
>To stop incoming mail permanently and to terminate your subscription:
>     SIGNOFF PARKINSN
>
>here's a sample 'i want to change my subscription options' message:
>
>===================================================================
>Date:    2000/01/01 01:01:01 EST
>From:    Ms. Wanda Joyne, PhD
>To:      [log in to unmask]
>Cc:      me
>Subject: My Second E-Mail Message to a Machine
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>SET PARKINSN NOREPRO
>SET PARKINSN DIGEST
>
>=================================================================
>
>here are some tips:
>
>* The "To" Header: The listserv has two addresses:
>  the List Address: use [log in to unmask]
>  for messages to the PARKINSN list-members; and
>  the Command Address: use [log in to unmask]
>  for commands to the LISTSERV computer;
>  incredible as it might sound, it's easy to mix them up...
>
>* The "Subject" Header: This header (and anything typed in it) is
>  ignored by the listerv computer.
>
>* The "Body" of the Message: This is where the listserv computer
>  looks for 'commands' in nerd-lingo.
>
>
>
>how to talk to us cyber-siblings
>how to post a message to all of us listmembers
>
>After you have subscribed to the PIEnet, to post a 'public' message
>for all the other subscribers to read, type your message in the
>'body' area and fill in the 'subject line' with a brief description
>of your topic.
>
>E-mail all 'public' messages to the listserv computer at:
>     [log in to unmask]
>
>here's a sample 'hello to all you list-members' message:
>
>=================================================================
>Date:    1999/12/31 23:59:59 EST
>From:    Ms. Wanda Joyne, PhD
>To:      [log in to unmask]
>Cc:      me
>Subject: My First E-Mail Message to a Human Being
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Hello Everyone;
>
>I have just joined the PIEnet and want to thank
>Barbara Patterson for setting up this great resource,
>and also the University of Toronto for hosting the list
>and the archives rent-free.
>
>More later.
>
>Wanda
>
>~v^v~ Ms. Wanda Joyne, PhD ~v^v~ [log in to unmask] ~v^v~
>=================================================================
>
>here are some tips:
>
>* The "To" Header: The listserv has two addresses:
>  the List Address: use [log in to unmask]
>  for messages to the PARKINSN list-members; and
>  the Command Address: use [log in to unmask]
>  for commands to the LISTSERV computer;
>  incredible as it might sound, it's easy to mix them up...
>
>* The "Subject" Header: This header might be the most important of
>  all; with e-mail volume on the list growing slowly but steadily,
>  a clear but concise description of what your message is all
>  about, only makes for good 'netiquette'!
>
>* The "Body" of the Message: This space available! The only rule
>  here, according to the powers that be, is that personal attacks on
>  [or 'flames'] other listmembers could be cause for banishment.
>
>* A "Signature": This is a feature available on most e-mail software
>  programs, and is completely optional for PIEnet members. (Some
>  listmembers - not mentioning any names - find it handy if the
>  message sender's e-mail address is included at the end of their
>  message.)
>