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hi all
ken and i had a brief conversation about suicide
janet
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>>>>at least with pd and sinemet
>>>>there's a little relief in the symptoms
>>>>good hard evidence of a little light at the end of the tunnel now and again
>>>
>>>Hi Janet,
>>>I'm a bit confused about this statement. Don't you take
>>>anti-depressants? Do they not work? A little bit even?
>>i'm a bit confused by it now myself!
>>i was on a late night rant 'n' roll
>>and thinking too fast for my typing maybe!
>>
>>yes i take anti-depressants and yes they work just wonderfully
>>
>>maybe just as important, over the years,
>>i have become fairly skilled at recognizing the "fog incoming" signs
>>>At the first Parkinson's Action Network Forum a group of about twelve of
>>>us, maily young-onset, had dinner at the hotel restaurant. I had not
>>>met any of them before but we had grown close in a very short period of
>>>time because of our common bond. Ofcourse, not having PD I felt a bit
>>>of an outsider, but not much.
>>>
>>>At one point during the conversation the subject of suicide came up. I
>>>was stunned to hear that everyone had considered it. They were
>>>comfortable saying to one another that "if things got bad enough" they
>>>would commit suicide. It was very matter of fact, rational and
>>>guiltless. It was at this point that I began to grasp the depth of pain
>>>in Parkinson's.
>>>
>>>As far as I know none of these individuals has done themselves in. Some
>>>have been through some pretty tough times but they seem to be in it for
>>>the long haul.
>>>Regards,
>>>Ken Aidekman
>you don't have PD?! well why the heck am i talking to you at all then?!
>lolo!
>
>i considered suicide my future 'out' for a long time as well
>
>in retrospect, i think the pain there was one
>of anticipating and awfulizing the future
>
>just the idea of using a wheelchair might have terrified me at some point
>but it holds no terror for me now
>
>i went for one in a shopping mall not long ago when i was off
>and was intrigued to discover that my 21 year old niece
>was embarrassed by it [not by me]
>
>we change and grow and adapt
>and
>we cannot foresee the future
>
>thinking about suicide from a 'safe' dinner party type distance
>[not to belittle those discussions in any way whatsoever]
>is not the aspect of cd and suicide that frustrates me
>
>it's the secret 'weakness'
>the unexpressed pain
>the hidden shame
>
>so needlessly crippling and delaying
>when i know first hand that that type of thinking
>is mostly lies and distortions which
>disappear poof! with treatment
>
>looking back into the fog left behind
>from an escapee's position can be an exercise in amazement
>what in heck was that?
>what was i thinking?
>
>janet
>
>(would you mind if i 'shared' this with the list?)
Ok to share stuff with list.
I'm a major big fan of anti-depressants. I've been taking them for over
three years and the difference between before and after is night and
day. I am stunned to experience what I feel like without them. When I
miss some pills I become confused, distracted, tired, angry, apathetic,
nasty. I'm not happy about being dependant on these anti-depressants
but nonetheless I wish they were around for the many years of my life
when I suffered needlessly.
Exercise is real important as well.
-Ken
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janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: "http://www.geocities.com/janet313/"
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1995, Week 4 April 1995, Week 3 April 1995, Week 2 April 1995, Week 1 March 1995, Week 5 March 1995, Week 4 March 1995, Week 3 March 1995, Week 2 March 1995, Week 1 February 1995, Week 4 February 1995, Week 3 February 1995, Week 2 February 1995, Week 1 January 1995, Week 5 January 1995, Week 4 January 1995, Week 3 January 1995, Week 2 January 1995, Week 1 December 1994, Week 5 December 1994, Week 4 December 1994, Week 3 December 1994, Week 2 December 1994, Week 1 November 1994, Week 5 November 1994, Week 4 November 1994, Week 3 November 1994, Week 2 November 1994, Week 1 October 1994, Week 5 October 1994, Week 4 October 1994, Week 3 October 1994, Week 2 October 1994, Week 1 September 1994, Week 5 September 1994, Week 4 September 1994, Week 3 September 1994, Week 2 September 1994, Week 1 August 1994, Week 5 August 1994, Week 4 August 1994, Week 3 August 1994, Week 2 August 1994, Week 1 July 1994, Week 5 July 1994, Week 4 July 1994, Week 3 July 1994, Week 2 July 1994, Week 1 June 1994, Week 5 June 1994, Week 4 June 1994, Week 3 June 1994, Week 2 June 1994, Week 1 May 1994, Week 5 May 1994, Week 4 May 1994, Week 3 May 1994, Week 2 May 1994, Week 1 April 1994, Week 5 April 1994, Week 4 April 1994, Week 3 April 1994, Week 2 April 1994, Week 1 March 1994, Week 5 March 1994, Week 4 March 1994, Week 3 March 1994, Week 2 March 1994, Week 1 February 1994, Week 4 February 1994, Week 3 February 1994, Week 2 February 1994, Week 1 February 1994 January 1994 December 1993 November 1993
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