Have you heard of 'Dymatize Elite Whey Protein?' It contains L-tyrosine, a
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Ernesto

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Oh boy, Ray.  Wouldn't that be a great side effect. Let me know and  maybe
> I'll try it.
>
> Roberta Innarella
>
>
> In a message dated 5/13/2009 2:00:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>  [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Roberta
>
> I don't take any MAO inhibitors or much else so the  tyrosine is most
> likely
> OK for me.  thanks for clarifying the  issue.  It would be great if I could
> lose some fat.
> Ray
> Rayilyn  Brown
> Director AZNPF
> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson  Foundation
> [log in to unmask]
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From:  <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:23 AM
> To:  <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Question re milk  thistleand tyrosine
>
> >
> >
> > The following taken from  "Prescription for Nutritional Healing" Third
> > Edition:
> >
> >  "Tyrosine is important to overall metabolism.  It is a precursor   of
> > adrenaline and the neurotransmiters norepinephrine and dopamine,  which
> > regulate
> > mood and stimulate metabolism and the nervous  system.   Tyrosine acts as
> a
> > mood elevator; a lack of  adequate amounts of tyrosine  leads to a
> > deficiency
> > of  norepinephrine in the brain, which in turn can  result in depression.
>
> > It
> > also acts as a mild antioxidant, suppresses  the  appetite, and helps to
> > reduce body fat.  It aids in the   production of melanin (the pigment
> > responsible
> > for skin and  hair color)  and in the functions of the adrenal, thyroid,
> >  and
> > pituitary glands.   It is also involved in the  metabolism of the amino
> > acid
> > phenylalanine.
> >
> >  Tyrosine attaches to iodine atoms to form active thyroid  hormones.
> Not
> > surprisingly, therefore, low plasma levels of tyrosine  have  been
> > associated
> > with hypothyroidism.  Symptoms of  tyrosine  deficiency can also include
> > low
> > blood  pressure, low body temperature (such  as cold hands and feet),
>  and
> > restless leg syndrome.
> >
> > Supplemental L-tyrosine has  been used for stress reduction, and
>  research
> > suggests it may be  helpful against chronic fatigue and  narcolepsy.  It
> >  has
> > been used to help individuals suffering from  anxiety,  depression, low
> sex
> > drive, allergies, and headaches, as well as   persons undergoing
> withdrawal
> > from drugs.  It may also help  people  with Parkinson's disease.
> >
> > Natural resources of  tyrosine include almonds, avocados, bananas,  dairy
> > products,  lima beans, pumpkin seeds, and sesame seeds.   Tyrosine can
> also
> > be
> > produced from phenylalanine in the body.    Supplements of L-tyrosine
> > should
> > be taken at bedtime or with  a  high-carbohydrate meal so that it does
> not
> > have to complete  for absorption  with other amino acids.
> >
> > Persons taking  monoamine oxidase (MAO)) inhibitors, commonly  prescribed
> > for  depression, must strictly limit their intake of foods  containing
> > tyrosine
> > and should not take any supplements  containing  L-tyrosine, as it may
> lead
> > to a sudden and dangerous rise in   blood pressure.  Anyone who takes
> > prescription medication  for  depression should discuss necessary dietary
> > restrictions  with his or her  physician."
> >
> > I take Azilect which is an  MOA (B) not (A) inhibitor so I don't know  if
> > the last paragraph  would apply as I obviously don't take it for
> > depression
> > but  for PD.  I guess I'll need to research further unless  anyone on
> this
> > forum knows the answer.
> >
> > Roberta  Innarella
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/10/2009 3:27:33 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >  Schaff:
> >
> > I ordered 1000 msg milk thistle and 500 msg   L-tyrosine - is that the
> > correct
> > amount or not?
> > thanks  so much  and for clarifying the bp issue.  I  couldn't find
> > anything
> >
> > on line that said tyrosine caused high bp -  and yes it did claim  these
> 2
> > supplements as treatment for  PD.  thanks so very  much
> >
> > here's hoping....I don't  take PD meds you know, but am  getting worse
> >
> >  Ray
> >
> > Rayilyn Brown
> > Director  AZNPF
> > Arizona  Chapter National Parkinson  Foundation
> >  [log in to unmask]
> >
> >  --------------------------------------------------
> > From:  "Schaaf  Angus / Meadow Creek Ranch" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent:   Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:09 PM
> > To:   <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Question re  milk  thistleand tyrosine
> >
> >> To the best of my knowledge  tyrosine has  no impact on blood pressure.
> It
> >> is
> >>  a precursor  necessary for the production of dopamine by the liver. It
> is
> >>  quite beneficial. Salt and sugar as well as poor diets  have more
> impact
> > on
> >> BP .
> >> Hope this  helps.
> >> If it werent for  tyrosine in my program I couldnt do  the 5 to 6 hours
> of
> >> walking  I've been doing the last few  days fixing storm damage on the
> > ranch
> >> fences. Needless to  say by sundown I'm really wornout for  the day.
> >> Have a good  Sunday Ray.
> >>
> >> ----- Original  Message  -----
> >> From: "rayilynlee"   <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To:   <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Friday, May 08,  2009  10:48 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Question re milk   thistle
> >>
> >>
> >>> thanks Roberta  - I take  bp  medication
> >>> Ray
> >>>
> >>>  Rayilyn  Brown
> >>> Director AZNPF
> >>> Arizona  Chapter National  Parkinson Foundation
> >>>   [log in to unmask]
> >>>
> >>>   --------------------------------------------------
> >>> From:   <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009  4:03  AM
> >>> To:  <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>  Subject: Re:  Question re milk thistle
> >>>
> >>>   >
> >>> >
> >>> > Doesn't Tyrosine increase  blood  pressure?
> >>> >
> >>> > Roberta   Innarella
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > In  a  message dated 5/7/2009 2:01:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
> >>>  > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >>>  >
> >>> >  Yep!
> >>> >
> >>> >  ----- Original Message  -----
> >>> > From:   "rayilynlee"  <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> >  To:   <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> >  Sent: Tuesday,  May 05, 2009  9:45 AM
> >>> > Subject:  Re: Question re  milk thistle
> >>> >
> >>>  >
> >>> >> gee,  I  didn't know milk thistle  would help my liver produce
> > dopamine.
> >>> >>  I
> >>> >> started taking it  for constipation.  Do  I need to take  tyrosine
> >>> >> with
> >>   it?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>  Ray
> >>>  >>
> >>> >> Rayilyn   Brown
> >>> >>  Director AZNPF
> >>> >>  Arizona Chapter National  Parkinson  Foundation
> >>>  >>  [log in to unmask]
> >>> >>
> >>>  >>    --------------------------------------------------
> >>>  >>  From: "Schaaf  Angus / Meadow Creek Ranch"   <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> >> Sent:  Tuesday,  May  05, 2009 8:40 AM
> >>> >> To:    <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> >> Subject:   Question re  Amantadine/  GSH importance
> >>>   >>
> >>> >> > Couple of   thoughts.
> >>>  >> > Have you tried to let your liver  produce your   dopamine needs
> by
> >> taking
> >>>  >> > tyrosine and  milk thistle?
> >>> >>   > The natural production of  GSH  by the body is a little  more
> >>> >  complicated
> >>> >> >  but
> >>> >> >  following is article from my   archives that helps  explain.
> >>> >> >     WHY   GSH
> >>> >> > Oxidative stress  appears to play an  important role in
> >>> >> >  degeneration
> >> of
> >>> >>  > dopaminergic  neurons of the substantia  nigra (SN) associated
> >>>  >> with
> >>> >> > Parkinson's disease (PD). The  SN  of  early PD patients have
> >>> >> >   dramatically
> >>> >> > decreased levels of  the   thiol tripeptide glutathione (GSH). GSH
> >>  plays
> >>>  >> > multiple  roles in the nervous  system both as an  antioxidant
> and
> >>> a
> >>>  >> > redox
> >>>  >>  > modulator. We  have generated dopaminergic PC12 cell  lines in
> >  which
> >>> > levels
> >>> >> >   of
> >>> >> > GSH can be inducibly   down-regulated  via doxycycline induction
> of
> >>> >  antisense
> >>>  >> >  messages against both the  heavy and light subunits  of
> >>> >> >   gamma-glutamyl-cysteine synthetase,  the rate-limiting enzyme
>  in
> >>> >>  >  glutathione
> >>>  >> > synthesis. Down-regulation  of  glutamyl-cysteine  synthetase
> >>> >> > results
> >>  in
> >>>  >> > reduction in  mitochondrial GSH  levels, increased  oxidative
> > stress,
> >>  and
> >>> >> >  decreased  mitochondrial  function. Interestingly, decreases in
> >>>  >>   > mitochondrial
> >>> >> > activities  in  GSH-depleted PC12 cells  appears to be because of
> a
> >>>   > selective
> >>> >> > inhibition of  complex  I  activity as a result of thiol
> oxidation.
> >>  These
> >>>  >> >  results suggest that the early  observed GSH losses  in the SN
> may
> >>> >> >  be
> >>> >> >  directly
> >>> >> >  responsible for the noted   decreases in complex I activity and
> the
> >>> >> >  subsequent
> >>>  >>  > mitochondrial dysfunction,  which ultimately leads to
> dopaminergic
> >>> >>  cell
> >>> >> >  death
> >>> >> >  associated with PD.
> >>>  >>  >
> >>> >>  >   WHY  GLUTAMINE
> >>> >> > Glutamine is  an  important  mitochondrial substrate implicated in
> > the
> >>>   >> >  protection of cells from oxidant injury. Human   pulmonary
> >>> > epithelial-like
> >>> >>  >  (A549) cells were exposed to 95% O(2) for 4  days in the
>  absence
> > and
> >>> >> > presence
> >>>  >> > of  glutamine.  Cell proliferation in normoxia was  dependent  on
> >>> > glutamine,
> >>> >>  >   and
> >>> >> > glutamine deprivation  markedly accelerated  cell death  in
> >  hyperoxia.
> >>> >> > Glutamine  significantly  increased cellular  ATP levels in
> normoxia
> >>   and
> >>> >> > prevented the loss of ATP in    hyperoxia seen in
> glutamine-deprived
> >>> >  cells.
> >>>  >> > Mitochondrial  membrane  potential as assessed by flow  cytometry
> > with
> >>>  >> >   chloromethyltetramethylrosamine was increased by  glutamine  in
> >>> >>  > hyperoxia-exposed A549  cells, and a  glutamine dose-dependent
> >>  increase
> >>> >  in
> >>> >> >  mitochondrial membrane potential was  detected.
> >>  Glutamine-supplemented,
> >>> >> >  hyperoxia-exposed  cells had a  HIGHER  O(2) consumption rate
>  and
> >  GSH
> >>> >> > content.
> >>>  >>   > Electron and fluorescence microscopy revealed that,  in
> > hyperoxia,
> >>> >> > glutamine
> >>>  >> >  protected cellular  structures, especially  mitochondria, from
> >>> >> > damage.
> >>>  >> >  In
> >>> >> >  hyperoxia, activity  of the  tricarboxylic acid cycle enzyme
> >>> >>  >   alpha-ketoglutarate dehydrogenase was partially protected by
> >>> >> > its
> >>> >  indirect
> >>> >> > substrate,  glutamine, indicating  a  mechanism of mitochondrial
> >>>  >  protection.
> >>> >> > THEREFORE:   I take   L-Glutamine and DHEA to increase the level
> of
> >>> >>  >  GSH
> >>> >> > in
> >>> >>  >   the
> >>> >> > body naturally to further  thwart the  symptoms and  destruction
> of
> >>  P.D.
> >>> >> >  along
> >>> >> >  with my other  vitamin/mineral  protocol which exclude PD drugs.
> As
> > a
> >>> > note.
> >>>  >>   > I
> >>> >> > never tried the  Amantadine. My  doctors forced me  early to look
> >>> >   elsewhere
> >>> >> > for
> >>> >> >  help  since they  couldnt due to lack of knowledge or  incentive.
> > Not
> >>> >> > sure
> >>>  >> >  which  but I'm alot healthier for switching to a no  drug
> > protocol.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>  > -----  Original Message -----
> >>> >>  >  From: "Ernesto  Divo" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>  >> > To:    <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> >> >  Sent:  Sunday, May 03,  2009 12:24 PM
> >>> >> >  Subject:  Re: Question re Amantadine  use
> >>>  >>  >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>  >> Hi  John,
> >>> >>   >>
> >>> >> >>  I'm 56 and was diagnosed with  PD in 2000, I've  been taking
> > Azilect
> >>> >>  >> and
> >>> >> >>  Requip (Ropinirole) the  nausea  form the Requip is  unbearable.
> >>> >>  >> I
> >> have
> >>> >> >>   introduced  to my regimen for the past 5 months or so,
> 'MaxGXL',
> >  a
> >>> >> >  supplement
> >>>  >>  >> developed here in the US, by a US scientist  and  sold by a  US
> >>> >> >> company. It raises thet  levels of  GSH  in your cells naturally.
> >>> >>  >> It
> >>> >> >>  took
> >>>  >> >> the
> >>> >>  >>  GXL about  a week to work on my sleeping pattern, I was  waking
> >>>  >> up
> >> 2-3
> >>> >> >>  times
> >>>  >> >> during the night, now I   sleep straight thru the  night, and it
> > took
> >>> >  about
> >>> >>  >>  three weeks to work on my  cognitive process but it was so
> > subtle
> >>> >>  >> I
> >>> >  barely
> >>> >> >>  thought it was the GXL. I wasn't  having  problems looking  for
> > words
> >> to
> >>> >>  >  finish
> >>> >> >> a  sentence, my memory is   back, I don't lose things around the
> >> house,
> >>>  >  I
> >>> >> > have
> >>> >>  >> more  energy and I feel good and my  wife is happier.   It is
> >>> >> >> strange,
> >>> >   when
> >>> >> >> I
> >>> >>   >>  asked my doctor about it he said Gluta what?  it seems  the
> >>> >> medical
> >>> >> >   community
> >>> >> >> is keeping the use of    Glutathione (GSH) under wraps, they
> don't
> >>  want
> >>>  >> >>  competition...  I  order mine from  www.maxgxl.com/133282  I
> >>> >>  >>  suggest
> >>> >> >>  getting
> >>> >>  >> as much info as  possible  of GSH, I went to  www.youtube.comand
> >>> >  searched
> >>> >>  >  for
> >>>  >> >> 'The mother of all  antioxidants', there is this   doctor Mark
> >>> >> >> Hyman
> >>   who
> >>> >> >> explains in details about  GSH;   excellent video.
> >>> >>  >>
> >>> >>  >> Good luck to   you.
> >>> >>  >>
> >>> >> >>  Ernesto,
> >>> >>  >> Miami,   FL
> >>> >> >>
> >>>  >> >>  On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:46 AM,  john  emrys
> >>  <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> >> >   wrote:
> >>> >>  >>
> >>> >>  >>  > Hey John
> >>> >> >>  >
> >>>  >>  >> > I've been on  Amantadine since being  diagnosed in October
>  of
> >>>  >> last
> >>>  > year;
> >>> >>  >> > dosage has remained  constant and  titrated from 100mg  to
> 300mg
> >>> >>  >> > per
> >>> >  day,
> >>> >> >  over
> >>> >>   >> > an initial period of 3  weeks.
> >>> >>  >>  >
> >>> >>  >> > I space the  dosing about 5-ish hours apart;  I've  found if
> the
> >>  final
> >>> >> >> >  dose
> >>>  >> >  of
> >>> >> >>  > 100mg is  taken later than 8PM, I have trouble  sleeping
> >>> >>  >> through
> >> the
> >>> >> >  night.
> >>>  >> >> >
> >>>  >>  >> > It does  give me an energy boost and some  minor relief from
> >>  muscle
> >>> >> >>  > tightness, but does nothing to  improve gait  or reduce
> tremor.
> >> It's
> >>> >  sort
> >>>  >> > of
> >>> >> >>  >  just a  little bit of "gas" for your "engine."
> >>>  >>  >>  >
> >>> >> >> > On the  other  hand, I find it causes auditory  hallucinations,
> >>>   >> >> > drowsiness,
> >>> >> >>   >  occasional vertigo, foggy thought processing and swelling
> >  around
> >>> > the
> >>> >> >  knees.
> >>>  >> >> >
> >>> >>  >> > I  find  much better results on GSH and mucuna bean,  which I
> >>  started
> >>> >>  >> >  about
> >>>  >> > 6
> >>> >> >>  > months ago (the   mucuna has been a very recent thing, so
>  it's
> >>> >>  >> > been
> >>> >  too
> >>> >> >   early
> >>> >>  >> > to tell – but so far, I'm  definitely  impressed). My  neuro
> >>> >  practically
> >>> >> >  lit
> >>> >> >>  >  his own hair on fire  when I told him, but he couldn't  deny
> > the
> >>> >  results
> >>> >> >  of
> >>> >>  >> > the GSH.
> >>>  >>  >>  >
> >>> >> >> > The goal  is to be able to  cut the  amantadine by 35 - 50%
> > within
> >>> >>  >> > 6
> >>> >> >  months.
> >>>  >> >>  > My view is the longer I  stay away from  starting the
> agonists,
> >> the
> >>> >>  >  better.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >>   >> >  Hope that helps.
> >>> >> >>   >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>>  >>   >> >
> >>> >> >> >  Joh
> >>>  >> >> >
> >>>  >>  >>  >
> >>> >>  >>
> >>>
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